DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

This unit is the eMyWay system, also referred to as RT6, RNEG2, or WIPNAV+ for the Peugeot platform and made by Magneti Marelli.
Main Features: The eMyWay colour satellite navigation has high resolution mapping, Bluetooth Telephone & Audio Streaming supported profiles, USB support for Media files & CD

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by Lynnzer » 09 Jun 2019, 21:15

I can't see any harm doing a maps update. I got mine from the forum I got the firmware. Works a treat.
I guess that the satnav data is also stored on the sd card so it's more than likely that you need to install it again.
Haven't had the sd card delivered for the firmware installation yet and it's pee'd down all weekend so not really what I wanted.
Pleased to see that at least the basics of the head unit are functioning though with you as it points to the sd card being corrupted in some way as suspected.

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by Hutch » 09 Jun 2019, 22:17

Yeah might give that a go then and download the maps.

Just a heads up when you follow the instructions for the battery disconnect/re connect I had 2 issues.

1. It says to take off the negative terminal from the battery - I couldn't find access to it so I disconnected the positive instead.

2. When you re-connect the battery the instructions say to NOT open the door, however I had to so I could sit inside. Because it then says to hold the lock button to sync the key fob, when I did this the window went up which meant I couldn't continue the next step.

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by GiveMeABreak » 09 Jun 2019, 23:41

It's likely you will need to reload your mapping software on then - as the database will need to be rebuilt. If you have your original maps on USB - try putting that in and letting it update.

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by Hutch » 10 Jun 2019, 22:28

RESULT

The map update worked and now I have a fully functioning radio, Bluetooth and Satnav all for under £20.

The only niggle is that it comes up Peugeot when I start the car but I'm not bothered.

Thank you everyone for your help especially Marc, I really appreciate it.

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by GiveMeABreak » 11 Jun 2019, 08:15

No problem, glad thats worked for you 👍

The marque can be changed through ECU configuration, but needs Diagbox to do it. Sometimes the reversing sensors may need configuring too by the same means if you have any issues. Well done.

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by Lynnzer » 14 Jun 2019, 15:58

Well just round to doing mine. Pretty simple if I may say. However still nothing working.
I still can't eject the cd and have tried all the usual things.
On thinking about it, I don't think - or should I say that I'm certain it isn't actually spinning. I would hear that.
If it was spinning I could probably use another cd to prise it into the eject.

So, spin fixes please. Why is it not spinning?
Also, even though it's stuck and not spinning, I still occasionally get a crc check showing on the otherwise blank screen then a warning that an upgrade is being prepared which never goes very far.

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by GiveMeABreak » 14 Jun 2019, 16:43

Is this the original firmware CD or a blank CD that you burned the firmware onto? If this is 'home burnt' CD, the file format can cause issues with the system constantly trying to recognise the CD. Ot must be burned at the lowest speed possible (certainly no more the 4x speed) and secondly the format must be Joliet only, not ISO / Joliet.
As for ejecting it, try a long press on the eject button. If that fails, it's unit out time, undoing some screws and trying to locate the CD from the front end and pulling it out carefully. This is a video for and RD4 unit on an X7, but yours will be different no doubt.


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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by Lynnzer » Yesterday, 12:23

Had another look at it on Sunday. The sdcard hadn't been properly inserted so I took care of that.
Also tried to get the cd out but it won't come out as it seems the spindle doesn't drop to allow it and there appears to be 2 tabs at the front that prevent it as well.

Anyway, once the sdcard had been properly located and everything put back in place the screen showed the crc check again and went through the full installation process right up to the 100%. It then ejected the cd and did a restart and all I got was the same cd whirring sounds as before. Screen blank and none of the associated things accessible, ie reversing camera, bluetooth for phone etc.
Seems knackered.
Can't think of anything else to do. The new sdcard and firmware can't be at fault otherwise it wouldn't have gone to 100% installation.
I've emailed Clarion about them doing repairs and am waiting to hear back from them but if anyone has any other usful ideas I'd be pleased to hear them

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by GiveMeABreak » Yesterday, 12:28

When it ejected the Cd and restarted, did you quickly whip the CD out so it didn't start the process again?

Because you have just updated the firmware, I would suggest you do a battery disconnect now (as the Head unit retains power) and allow a good 5 minutes in between reconnecting the battery terminal - as per the procedure:

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by Lynnzer » Yesterday, 13:17

Didn't reload the cd after it ejected.
Suppose it would be worthwhile to do a battery disconnect procedure though. Might give it a go tonight if it doesn't rain.
Only problem is that every time I do this I have trouble starting the car as it somehow needs the diesel system to be bled to remove air every time.
It's a pain but could be worth the effort though

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by GiveMeABreak » Yesterday, 15:42

That shouldn't need doing.... just follow my procedure exactly including the timings. I've updated it to account for Stop Start and Keyless entry fitted vehicles.

Battery Disconnect / Reconnect Procedure

Don't shortcut anything - or it will be a waste of time. :-D

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by Lynnzer » Yesterday, 20:44

Thanks again Marc,
I'm worried that i'm going to mix up the procedure between keyless and normal though so I have condensed the reconnection process to what I believe you mean. as shown here:
Reconnection:
Ensure all doors and tailgate are shut (if you have been doing any work on the car).
Stop Start / Keyless Systems Only: For these systems, when reconnecting the battery, ensure the fob is not within 2-3 metres of the car perimeter until the time of reconnecting the battery has lapsed.
Reconnect the vehicle battery.
Wait a further 3 minutes (do not open doors).
Switch on the side lights through the driver's window.
For Keyless Ignition / Stop Start Vehicles only: With the Fob in the car or in the Fob Reader, press the Start Stop button without pressing any pedals. That will switch the ignition on only.
Check ignition lights in dash come on ok
For Keyless Ignition / Stop Start Vehicles only: Press the Start Stop button again, without touching any pedals to switch the ignition off.
Lock the car (use the sensor on the door handle or the fob)
Unlock the car (again, using door handle sensor or fob)
Now open door, start the engine and check there are no errors etc.
Switch off your side lights

I want to be certain of this and I don't know if the switching on and off of the ignition should be done right after each other ie, as highlighted in red.
Also the central locking - is that locking the car by the key fob?

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by GiveMeABreak » Yesterday, 20:55

I’ve modified your post to remove the unnecessary lines.

I will revise the procedure again to try and make it clearer, thanks for letting me know.

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Re: DS5 intermittent working satnav/radio

Post by myglaren » Yesterday, 23:30

While it is peripheral to the original question, I recently bought a couple of Faraday pouches for my two younger daughters as both have keyless entry/ignition cars - this to help prevent the cars being stolen y having the key transmissions being intercepted while away from the car.

Such a thing might make life easier when doing the battery disconnect/reconnect though. I paid only a fiver for two, from Amazon, but they are widely available.