Xantia Airbag Removal

Our most popular forum is for Citroën problems, discussions and chat.
Specialising in AX, BX, ZX, Xantia,C5, Xsara, Saxo and XM. CX, 2cv & Berlingo, all are welcome.NOT for selling cars/parts!

Moderator: RichardW

nick
Posts: 1079
Joined: 14 Mar 2001, 02:49
Location: Market Rasen, Lincolnshire
My Cars:

Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by nick » 01 Sep 2001, 17:49

Hi,
Currently trying to remove the airbag on my Xantia to replace the
indicator switch.
Problem is the ever helpful (!?) Haynes manual doesnt mention what
type of screws are used to hold the airbag in place. I suspect they
are probably torx screws, but they are recessed in the back of the
steering wheel so you can't actually see them until they are removed!
Ive tried various types of screwdrivers (flat, philips, torx) but
nothing seems to get any grip on them and I'm concerned that I'm
probably damaging the heads of the screws in the process.
Anyone done this job before ?
Any help much appreciated !
Regards,
Nick
0x

Dave Burns
Posts: 1916
Joined: 14 May 2001, 05:30
Location: United Kingdom
My Cars:

Post by Dave Burns » 01 Sep 2001, 19:53

Hello Nick, Torx head screws are used to hold the airbag in place, can't remember the exact size for sure about T40 or T30, disconnect the car battery and wait for 15 mins before touching the bag, stay well to the side of the wheel or well back when in front of it whilst working on it just incase, loosen but don't remove the wheel nut, give it a good slap with your palms at centre height to break the taper, if you take the nut off completely the wheel might fly off taking the wires with it and smashing the rotary connector and circuit board, the orange connector pulls directly away from the bag, don't twist or try sliding it, touch a good earth point to ground any static before grabing the airbag connector, on refitting align the arrows on the rotary connector and make sure the road wheel's are in the dead ahead position, don't forget to mark the steering wheel in relation to the shaft before removal.
Hope this helps
Dave
0x

nick
Posts: 1079
Joined: 14 Mar 2001, 02:49
Location: Market Rasen, Lincolnshire
My Cars:

Post by nick » 02 Sep 2001, 22:14

Thanks Dave,
Removed it with no other problems, for future reference it was a T30 size screw !
I had been a bit concerned about static, so I touched the bodywork before removing the connector.
Thanks again,
Nick
0x

howardaskew
Posts: 52
Joined: 21 Jun 2007, 00:30
Location: Maidstone
My Cars: Citroen C5 2.0 VTR HDI 179k (previous C5 clocked up 276k)
Partners Car C5 2.2 HDI Mk1 Exclusive Automatic
2nd Car SAAB 9-3 TID 2007
Ex Citroen C4 (caught fire in middle of town :( )
Ex C5 Mk 1 clocked up 276k on original clutch now scrapped
Ex Xantia (Passed to Wife and clocked up 169,000 now scrapped)
Audi 200 Turbo manual 1984 (It was a very very fast beast :) )
x 1

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by howardaskew » 14 Jul 2013, 11:23

I removed airbag/steering wheel on a 1997 Xantia 1.8i 16V and the screws are T25.

I find iPhone useful to take pictures of the screw heads to identify them in hard to reach places.
0x

User avatar
spider
Posts: 3951
Joined: 05 Jan 2010, 15:28
Location: Derby.
My Cars: Soon, I hope...
x 63

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by spider » 14 Jul 2013, 13:31

I've always kept a mirror glass handy for such viewings, very useful thing to have slightly better sometimes than the traditional "dentist" type "mirror on a telescopic stick" affair as you can shine a small light onto the mirror to have it reflected on the object in question.
0x
Andy.

91 205D-Turbo, gone but still missed
02 106D, TUD5B, gone but not really missed apart from the MPG

User avatar
falling-out-with-my-car
Posts: 1927
Joined: 06 Apr 2008, 15:26
Location: Northamptonshire
My Cars: 1987 Citroen 2cv6 restored 2011, 2007 Citroen C5 purchased 9/12/2016
x 13

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by falling-out-with-my-car » 14 Jul 2013, 15:15

Nick they are T30 torx screws and you can see them with a small makeup mirror from the misses handbag and a torch, but unfortunately you dont actually need to remove the steerring wheel to replace the switch arms.
I did both of mine in my 1998 S2 just by rotatating the steering wheel to create more room, I removed the top half iof the cowling around the steering wheel covering the arms, it is then possible to unplug the arms and remove them by using a flat screwdriver to prize up the plastic clips holding them to their connection blocks, it is a fair while since I did them so some of it is a bit loosley remembered but I did not need to remove the air bag & steering wheel first. the left one for the lights was £62 from Citroen and the right one wipers was £10 on a scrap yard.
regards Nigel,
0x
Citroen Xantia S2 1.9 TD estate 189K soon to be broken for parts Jan 2017 headlamps & radiator fan assembly already spoken for & A 1987 Citroen 2CV6 special just for fun.
New addition Citroen C5 2.0 HDi Exclusive Hatch purchased 09/12/2016 with 83K on the clock.

User avatar
Xaccers
Posts: 7655
Joined: 08 Feb 2007, 00:46
Location: Milling around Milton Keynes
My Cars:
x 2

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by Xaccers » 14 Jul 2013, 17:22

Mk1 needs the wheel off to remove the top cowling.
0x
1.9TD+ SX Xantia Estate (Cassy) running on 100% veg
1.9TD SX Xantia Hatchback (Jenny) running on 100% veg for sale
Laguna II 2.0dCi Privilege (Monty)

DIY sphere tool

User avatar
falling-out-with-my-car
Posts: 1927
Joined: 06 Apr 2008, 15:26
Location: Northamptonshire
My Cars: 1987 Citroen 2cv6 restored 2011, 2007 Citroen C5 purchased 9/12/2016
x 13

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by falling-out-with-my-car » 14 Jul 2013, 17:39

ARRRRGGGHHHH S*Ds Law That.

regards Nigel.
0x
Citroen Xantia S2 1.9 TD estate 189K soon to be broken for parts Jan 2017 headlamps & radiator fan assembly already spoken for & A 1987 Citroen 2CV6 special just for fun.
New addition Citroen C5 2.0 HDi Exclusive Hatch purchased 09/12/2016 with 83K on the clock.

Stewart(oily)
Posts: 784
Joined: 07 Oct 2005, 16:31
Location: Wales
My Cars:
x 3

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by Stewart(oily) » 14 Jul 2013, 18:08

I can confirm that S2 Xantias can have the upper and lower cowls removed without bothering the steering wheel.
0x
BXs since 1993, currently have one of the few 1.9TDs in captivity, sold on in 2006, got a S2 Xantia estate, brilliant car! 2013 mechanically karked it at 210,000 after breaking its cambelt, Xantia HDI LX 110 2000 new car with 122,000, lovely motor, getting to know it.

Hell Razor5543
NOT Alistair or Simon
Posts: 7254
Joined: 01 Apr 2012, 09:47
Location: Reading
My Cars: C5 Mk1 VTR estate, Icelandic Grey (I think she is called "Bluebird")
x 287

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by Hell Razor5543 » 14 Jul 2013, 18:14

So can I, as I have had to replace Gracies' wiper stalk, and all the dashboard bulbs.
0x
James
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX

C5 VTR HDi estate, 76518762
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!

User avatar
Xaccers
Posts: 7655
Joined: 08 Feb 2007, 00:46
Location: Milling around Milton Keynes
My Cars:
x 2

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by Xaccers » 14 Jul 2013, 20:23

falling-out-with-my-car wrote:ARRRRGGGHHHH S*Ds Law That.

regards Nigel.


Yup, it's a PITA.
There's a plastic square clip that often gets snapped off if you don't free it up through the wiper stalk hole with a flat screwdriver, and if it breaks off the cowl wobbles.
This is one area where the Mk1 is much better.
0x
1.9TD+ SX Xantia Estate (Cassy) running on 100% veg
1.9TD SX Xantia Hatchback (Jenny) running on 100% veg for sale
Laguna II 2.0dCi Privilege (Monty)

DIY sphere tool

Stewart(oily)
Posts: 784
Joined: 07 Oct 2005, 16:31
Location: Wales
My Cars:
x 3

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by Stewart(oily) » 14 Jul 2013, 23:52

superloopy wrote:
Stewart(oily) wrote:I can confirm that S2 Xantias can have the upper and lower cowls removed without bothering the steering wheel.


How?

Mines apart but will it go back again, no way Jose!

Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2


It just comes apart then goes back, a bit fiddly but nothing special.
0x
BXs since 1993, currently have one of the few 1.9TDs in captivity, sold on in 2006, got a S2 Xantia estate, brilliant car! 2013 mechanically karked it at 210,000 after breaking its cambelt, Xantia HDI LX 110 2000 new car with 122,000, lovely motor, getting to know it.

RichardW
Forum Treasurer
Posts: 7624
Joined: 07 Aug 2002, 17:12
Location: United Kingdom
My Cars: '07 307 SW 1.6 HDi 110
'08 C4 Grand Picasso 1.6 HDi 110
x 146

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by RichardW » 15 Jul 2013, 09:39

To get the cowls back on my MK2 I had to bend down the tag on the steering column at the bottom of the bottom cowl to allow it to slide back on. I think I bent it back again when the cowl was back on.
0x
Richard W
Still not welding the de-cap...
1.6 HDi central (C4 Picasso / 307 SW)
Xantia HDi 110 now bean tins

User avatar
falling-out-with-my-car
Posts: 1927
Joined: 06 Apr 2008, 15:26
Location: Northamptonshire
My Cars: 1987 Citroen 2cv6 restored 2011, 2007 Citroen C5 purchased 9/12/2016
x 13

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by falling-out-with-my-car » 16 Oct 2013, 13:28

would just like to add that blue tack is a marvelous thing on the end of your screwdriver/torx bits when working upside down if you dont have a magnet handy to charge the tools with maganetism.
0x
Citroen Xantia S2 1.9 TD estate 189K soon to be broken for parts Jan 2017 headlamps & radiator fan assembly already spoken for & A 1987 Citroen 2CV6 special just for fun.
New addition Citroen C5 2.0 HDi Exclusive Hatch purchased 09/12/2016 with 83K on the clock.

danny13
Posts: 39
Joined: 29 Jan 2012, 12:19
Location:
My Cars:

Re: Xantia Airbag Removal

Post by danny13 » 27 Oct 2013, 14:43

Does anyone know how to disconnect the orange connector, it looks like its firmly attached to the metal plate at the back of the airbag and I've trying to avoid breaking it, should it split in the middle (with a bit of brute force)?
Image
0x