C15 1.7 D starting problems

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C15 1.7 D starting problems

Postby robpam17 » Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:50 am

I have been running a 1992(K) C15 pickup for 6 months with no problems until my son had the car and ran low on oil and fuel and it stopped I put oil in and changed the fuel filter and it will not start ,it will crank the glow plugs are all ok (tested with meter and tryed out of engine they glow hot )if I tow the car it will start (in 3rd gear ) and tick over ok and drive ok but if I stop it it will not start on the key.Could it be (a) compression?(b) timing belt slipped (dont't know when it was changed ,it's do 80,000+ miles it looks slitly cracked on the outside of the belt) (c) starter motor not enough speed of crank (have charged battery). Would appriciate any idea's on this .Thanks Bob
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Postby iancook2000 » Tue Jan 22, 2002 3:15 pm

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This vehicle should not be using any oil at 80K miles. Mine has 84K on the clock and I've run many other XUD diesels close to 100K miles without oil consumption problems.
It's strange that it suddenly used oil when your son used it, or was it already low? If the glow is OK and it will tow start then it sounds like compression (valves or rings) but at that mileage, it's weird. Could it have been clocked before you got it?
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Postby JohnD » Thu Jan 24, 2002 12:52 am

When you changed the fuel filter can you be sure that you got all the joints in the fuel lines and the filter air tight. If the glo-plugs are OK and it starts after being towed, but becomes reluctant to start after standing, it could point to air in the fuel lines. Replace the line from the filter to the pump with clear plastic. You'll then see any air bubbles.
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Postby robpam17 » Fri Apr 12, 2002 7:33 am

Since posting this message I have checked the starter motor all ok put a new 65 amp/hr battery on put a new water pump on and re checked the glow plugs all ok it still will not start I have noticed that pressure is building up in the cooling system does this surjest that the head gasket has gone I have not had a compression test done yet any help would be appriciated Bob
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Postby alan s » Fri Apr 12, 2002 10:33 am

gazoo,
Get the compression test done asap. By the sounds of things it is a foregone conclusion that the motor is losing compression somewhere. These diesels don't take kondly to overheating so there is a chance that it may have a cracked head also.
As a forerunner to the compression test, I'd ring Andyspares & check on price & availability of a VRS gasket set as well as get a price from a wrecker on a second hand head at which time you can find out who has one on hand & for what price.
To do the job properly, get a motor reconditioner to crack test the head, either yours or the replacement, before refitting, as well as check for levelness, cut seats & face valves & also change the cam belt and water pump at the same time. That way being a PSA diesel engine, it'll probably last longer than you will <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> providing there's no damage done to the motors bottom end.
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Postby alan s » Fri Apr 12, 2002 10:33 am

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