Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

This unit is the eMyWay system, also referred to as RT6, RNEG2, or WIPNAV+ for the Peugeot platform and made by Magneti Marelli.
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Re: Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

Post by Piti » 24 Mar 2016, 22:37

vborovic wrote:
Piti wrote:I have RT6 with video and camera input
That's two different things ... RT6 never had a video input (the only PSA unit that had it was the NG4 - 3D Navidrive) ... you're probably missing a configuration in the BSI of your car which triggers the reverse input selection. can't remember the exact location, but somewhere there's a huge list of parking options (no sensors, rear only, rear & front, rear & front & measuring space, video only, etc ...)
My RT6 have standard video-in. I can connect fg dvd player or any device with AV-out - its work. Don't work rear camera but before this RT6 and camera work in 3008. In BSI in configuration in Driver assistance in Parking module i chose and try all types of settings with rear camera. At standard - my car have rear & front & space measurement. I try only camera, rear & camera, front & camera etc. Without success.

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Re: Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

Post by vborovic » 24 Mar 2016, 23:10

Shoot me if I ever saw a RT6 with the video-in option in the last 2 years that I'm researching this topic ... http://c4owners.org/plugins/forum/forum ... p?153234.0 ... shame that the serial no and year of the RT6 unit aren't discussed (maybe different markets) in the topic I've linked

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Re: Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

Post by Piti » 25 Mar 2016, 21:49

My rt6 have video-in and it work. Don't work rear-view camera. When i connect camera to video-in i have image, but not automatically (when i put R gear) and without parking lines etc. I must change input fg from Radio to Video by Music button.

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Re: Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

Post by GiveMeABreak » 26 Mar 2016, 01:05

Sounds like that's because it was not designed for a rear camera input specifically, but only a video signal. The forward and rear parking sensors are handled by a dedicated ECU and the video output is sent to the screen and audio system (beeping from left or right speakers depending on obstacle detection). Most of the hardware I have seen for aftermarket cameras and the required processing requires some form of CAN compatible wiring and a processing unit. These are quite costly as you would expect, as they also allow additional video sources to be connected. It isn't enough to simply wire up a camera into the RT6 and expect it to work without a controlling processor / software.

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Re: Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

Post by Piti » 02 Apr 2016, 10:47

I send my RT6 to colegue from forum. He connect my device to his 3008. Result: https://vimeo.com/161152876

So my RT6 have both possibility: video input and rear camera. But my car - C5 don't have some option (hardware or software) to switch on rear camera and display image on screen. It's problem of BSI or AAS. So one more time please to someone who have C5 and original rear camera to looks on AAS version/model.

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Re: Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

Post by GiveMeABreak » 02 Apr 2016, 11:57

OK - I can't help you with the unit as I don't have this - but in case this helps here are the following:
There are no parameters that need configuring for the camera AFAIK and according to the docs, apart from the obvious settings in Diagbox for the type of reversing assistance. Two other things - I assume you have a CAN compatible camera and wiring, and secondly, that you have tried it with engine running, in reverse, tailgate shut?

The connector in the tailgate (Tourer) that the camera plugs into:
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The 4 pin connector and the pin channels:
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The Communication flow between the components:
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The key for the above:
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The info exchange Description:
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Re: Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

Post by Piti » 02 Apr 2016, 12:39

Thanks GiveMeABreak. Camera is from another C5 - was worked in previous car. Camera is connected like in schematic. Engine is running, tailgate closed, reverse hear is switch on.

Ps. i try find that post.

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Re: Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

Post by Piti » 28 Mar 2017, 11:26

About Camera & RT6 & Citroen C5 X7 2008:

You need:
1. Camera (original or chinese cheap cam),
2. RT6 with camera support (with new hardware) - camera connected to pin 1 and 7 in RT6
3. BSI with latest software version (my problem was software from 2011. With new software camera start work)
4. Power supply to camera. I get +12V from AAS power supply, ground from ground point in car body, I use additional power switch/relay to power on/off camera when i put reverse gear - signal +12V from reversing light (without this camera was powered allways when engine is on). Why i not connected power camera from reverse light +12V directly? Because it's may problem with bulb diagnosis. Additional when You switch off reverse gear, RT6 show image from camera for few seconds more, so if camera switch off with reverse lights then You have blue image on screen for this few seconds.
5. AAS version it's not important
6. Configure BSI/Configuration/Driving information/Parking assistance/ Set right option with camera support.


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Re: Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

Post by Paul-R » 28 Mar 2017, 14:32

That's excellent work. It gives me some hope that I might be able to fit a camera on to my wife's Peugeot 308.

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Re: Image quality reversing camera by night 2013 C5

Post by rmunns » 04 Apr 2017, 21:17

It all comes down to this; you can spend £1000 on a decent SLR and, do-what-you-like with the adjustments, photos taken in very low light will be pants.