Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

This unit is the NG4 system, made by Harman Becker.
Main Features: DVD, Voice Commands, HighRes Display, 3D Mapping, Bluetooth Hands Free, Independent Phone with MDS Module, SD Card, USB, Jukebox.

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by geoc5 » 13 Mar 2019, 10:28

There are only two possible positions: close or open - master or slave. Now it is on the master position. I can change on slave and try another time.

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by GiveMeABreak » 13 Mar 2019, 10:29

Yes - MASTER will NOT work! It has to be set to SLAVE, as the DVD Drive is always the MASTER device. :-D

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by geoc5 » 13 Mar 2019, 11:13

:-(
even on the slave position the result is the same: the same error and on the CF card no patitions.

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by GiveMeABreak » 13 Mar 2019, 11:41

I still think that the adapter is faulty, or isn't getting power. The problem is - the raw image I have is 24Gb, but when it goes into another system it will need the firmware to update to your system - it happened when I cloned my HD. I still had to use the firmware to update the system again - and with your situation this won't make any difference if the adapter is not working when in the unit. These are cheap enough - can I suggest you try a different adapter - something like the one I used?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inch-Mounting- ... ay&sr=8-43

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by geoc5 » 13 Mar 2019, 11:52

I'll try as you suggest.
Can you give me the link of the adapter you used?
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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by GiveMeABreak » 13 Mar 2019, 12:10

It's in my last Post Ivano - my exact one is no longer available, but I found this one almost identical in the link.

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by GiveMeABreak » 13 Mar 2019, 12:17

If it makes no difference - at least you can return it for a full refund - but will at least rule out the card. It just seems that the CF card is fine as you can read and write to is using your PC. But when the interface it installed in the NG4 it is either not getting power, (pin issue) or is not recognised. Always make sure you remove the power quadlock first and always plug it back in last after all the other connections are put in.

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by geoc5 » 13 Mar 2019, 12:37

ok...last try
Thanx
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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by geoc5 » 14 Mar 2019, 08:07

Marc,
sometimes very strange things happen, and for me inexplicable.
After the last failed attempt to use the CF card, I ordered a new adapter following your link.
Then I reassembled the hard drive and put the NG4 back in place waiting for the new adapter.
While I was traveling home I inserted the USB key with the upgrade software (NG4-N42c) and ... the upgrade process continued until the end ... 100%.
All NG4 functions are OK. Speech recognition is ok, phone is ok, navigation is ok.
IS IT A MIRACLE? :-)
The upgrade software I used is the one you sent me, and it's identical to the one I used before (as you can see in the screenshot below).
ConfrontoFiles.JPG
So what happened to make the NG4 change its mind?
Perhaps the continuous disassembly and assembly, startup and restart, have unlocked something that prevented proper operation.
In any case, now it seems that everything is working properly.

My dear C5 has already traveled 350000 Km and I hope that it still makes at least 100000 and that in the meantime even the NG4 still endures a couple of years :-)

I thank you for your patience
have a good day
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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by GiveMeABreak » 14 Mar 2019, 10:42

Great news Ivano.

Sometimes it can take several attempts, especially if the hard disk is damaged, so you may still have some issues in future.

I suggest that you still try the new adapter when it arrives just to see if you can get your CF card to work in the NG4. Then you can clone your working hard disk and maybe use that, whilst keeping you hard drive safe as a backup.

Fingers crossed.

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by zecabg » 27 Apr 2019, 21:18

Hello ,

Is it possible to some atach link for image - ng4 harman becker hdd 40gb toshiba ?

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by GiveMeABreak » 27 Apr 2019, 21:23

What is it that you actually want? I posted a picture of the hard disk label on my original post right at the beginning of the topic. That has all the information for the hard disk on it.

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by zecabg » 27 Apr 2019, 21:35

Hello Mark,

Sorry , me need hard drive image backup for original ng4 harman becker BE6465 - hdd 40gb toshiba .

I have one unit and whish tray to repair .

I have message overheating amplifier when power unit , tray to reflesh with last firmware 42c but same error .

I tray to exchange hdd but same ...

any idea ...

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by GiveMeABreak » 27 Apr 2019, 21:49

Do you have Lexia with Diagbox? That will provide a fault code that I can help with

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Re: Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

Post by zecabg » 27 Apr 2019, 22:05

Mark,

Yes I have and I test all unit on table i make for PSA navi repair test bench whit BSI,
This unit have very strange error ...
come with overheating error , with 42b firmware .
Fan working with fast speed all time .
I reflesh unit with 42c firmware , but same error.
Unit allso every time restart ...
I tray to read error with diagbox maybe some in configuration for ng4 not ok ... ?
I read and send you info
But i think some with NG4 hardware not ok .